On this week’s episode, Barbara and Donny has a conversation with the Center for Action and Contemplation’s Living School manager and spiritual director Gigi Ross about ways to embody contemplation when our paths of discovery and growth make unexpected shifts.

Gigi Ross serves as the CAC’s Living School Manager, supporting students in the Living School. She came to the CAC after spending her last six years in Washington, DC homeless, unemployed, and living in poverty. She resides in Albuquerque where she practices spiritual direction and is a member of the Threshold Choir, a group whose members sing for people who are dying.