Richard Rohr, in conversation with Paul Swanson and Brie Stoner, talk about the roles of awe and wonder play in the spiritual journey. This episode circles around the themes of creativity, music, humor, and the joy of mundanity in a Christ-soaked world.

Visit universalchrist.org to learn more about the core themes of Richard’s book, The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe